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Re: Free will

But a neat little thought experiment seriously jeopardized the premise that determination might be true. A person could decide to make a decision on the basis of the value of the roll of a die. (It was shown that the starting conditions and the laws of nature does not allow one to determine the upp...
by romansh
Sat Aug 19, 2017 11:30 am
 
Forum: Philosophy
Topic: Free will
Replies: 2271
Views: 59732

Re: Free will

Glad you suggest only 'some of the causes' because we can never identify the long chain of cause and effect in it's entirety. From a moral perspective however we're left with the question of which particular causes in any given case have unavoidable consequences, that is, which are subject to a sup...
by romansh
Sat Aug 12, 2017 12:54 pm
 
Forum: Philosophy
Topic: Free will
Replies: 2271
Views: 59732

Re: Free will

So now we've managed to include quantum physics and cosmology in the discussion. All very interesting but how does a conclusion either way dictate how we live (or should live?) or lives? The one thing I have taken on from the potential lack of free will is to give others and myself a bit of slack i...
by romansh
Fri Aug 11, 2017 4:35 pm
 
Forum: Philosophy
Topic: Free will
Replies: 2271
Views: 59732

Re: Free will

The online MIT MOOC course on philosophy argues that if determinism is true, free will is false but it is still possible to provide logical cases where people are still accountable for their actions. Sure we can hold people accountable especially in the weak sense of responsible. ie they might be a...
by romansh
Fri Aug 11, 2017 4:31 pm
 
Forum: Philosophy
Topic: Free will
Replies: 2271
Views: 59732

Re: Is Agnostics International Forum on the way to extinctio

Then count me out. I hate facebook, a counterintuitive, inefficient and ugly means of communication. I refuse to go anywhere near it. I've tried my best to get this site out of the dumps but it's still often like screaming into an empty room. I still think the best way to increase traffic here is t...
by romansh
Tue Aug 08, 2017 11:35 am
 
Forum: Forum Business
Topic: Is Agnostics International Forum on the way to extinction?
Replies: 13
Views: 363

Re: Free will

Currently reading Behave by Robert Sapolsky It is rich in terms of brain chemistry and brain structure so Bill you may enjoy it. I m currently on page 50 and Sapolsky tackles free will much later in the book. And should Karen be passing by,I got Crockett's to order in a second copy. Be warned it is ...
by romansh
Tue Aug 08, 2017 10:05 am
 
Forum: Philosophy
Topic: Free will
Replies: 2271
Views: 59732

Re: General Music Thread

I thought this was neat ... especially as it was filmed in the town (City of 7500) where I work. Well the bits with the red roofed stairs. The rest was filmed a little bit further up the hill and in Nelson.

by romansh
Sat Aug 05, 2017 4:13 pm
 
Forum: Music
Topic: General Music Thread
Replies: 2
Views: 148

Re: The Science Delusion

My definition of God is something that can create life, destroy life, assist, intervene or not intervene. Yep .. the universe fits that bill too ... in that it seems to have created sentient life. But with conscious intention? I doubt it ... this quote answers your question I think. If the moon, in...
by romansh
Sun Jul 30, 2017 8:14 pm
 
Forum: Philosophy
Topic: The Science Delusion
Replies: 36
Views: 1173

Re: The Science Delusion

gilnv wrote: My definition of God is something that can create life, destroy life, assist, intervene or not intervene.

Yep .. the universe fits that bill too ... in that it seems to have created sentient life.
by romansh
Sun Jul 30, 2017 4:59 pm
 
Forum: Philosophy
Topic: The Science Delusion
Replies: 36
Views: 1173

Re: Monism, Dualism and Pluralism

I'm unsure which conclusion I'm supposed to have jumped to here This one immediately comes to mind: truth that human nature is our real enemy but agree getting a sense of 'how the universe actually ticks' working our way up from there is an attractive option. However, the presumption we will ever a...
by romansh
Sat Jul 29, 2017 5:57 pm
 
Forum: Philosophy
Topic: Monism, Dualism and Pluralism
Replies: 968
Views: 20108
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